KASHMIR, MUSHARREF AND PRANNOY ROY!

IT IS GOING TO BE A DAMP SQUIB!

In his interview to PRANNOY ROY of NDTV General Pervez Musharref, President of Pakistan has supposedly said that he and Pakistan were prepared to forgo their claim on Kashmir, should India accept FOUR POINTS plan of General Musharref to resolve the issue. This post is in response to this statement. According to me, it was an eyewash and it is going to be a damp squib. My reminder to PRANNOY ROY IS:-


PRANNOY ROY ,SIR, You are wasting your time and inadvertantly leading INDIA up the garden path. If You think Musharref and PAKISTAN will forgo their claim on KASHMIR, you are sadly mistaken. KASHMIR is the only fulcrum of "ANIMOSITY- WITH- INDIA- POLICY" of Pakistan which is at the very core of Pakistan's survivability. REMEMBER, THE DAY KASHMIR ISSUE GOES, PAKISTAN GOES. Forget the TRACK-II diplomacy---Reality can not be wished away. And the reality is PAKISTAN survives as a nation because of anti-India feelings.

Read and listen to your own interview of Musharref, he has just not said what you are feeding the nation with. Sir, have you forgotten AGRA SUMMIT--how he used you through your question to trash and rubbish Indian viewpoint. In front of flashing cameras and PTV sending him live on air through you, he had ridiculed you and India by calling situation in KASHMIR AS FREEDOM STRUGGLE. Now you claim he says, "NO INDEPENDENCE". Do I have to remind you that he has a slippery mind? Have you forgotten how SHEKHAR GUPTA of INDIAN EXPRESS was used by NAWAZ SHARIEF through his interview in January 1999 to invite AB Vajpayee to LAHORE and then make him look small through KARGIL-99. Do you still believe, this shifting and rolling panorma of DNA of his 'FOUR POINTS' is genuine?

I tell you what? Have you heard of three laws of ABSURDITY? If interested , I will give you a brief on them, but note the THIRD LAW which is actually of a "LOVE- FAILED-ROMEO" : IF SHE CAN NOT BE MINE, SHE CAN NOT BE ANY ONE ELSE'S. Since 1988, after ZARB-E- MOMIN, Pakistan has resorted to this policy on KASHMIR. "Destroy KASHMIR", are the key words in Pakistan's Kashmir policy since then. AND TERRORISM/ MILTANCY IN KASHMIR IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THIS POLICY. INNOCENT KASHMIRI YOUTH FALL PREY TO EMOTIONAL CALL OF RELIGION IN DANGER. Please note religion is the easiest way to rake up emotions of the people and blind their rational faculities so as to serve your purpose without any opposition.

Finally, let us note that over the last 59 years, Pakistani Establishment had been stuffing their populace with anti-India venom and romanticising them with their final VICTORY OVER INDIA ON KASHMIR. People of Pakistan are as emotionally charged about KASHMIR as their military is. It may take another 59 years to stomach- wash this poison before Pakistan can forgo its claim on KASHMIR. But certainly not now and definitely NOT IN MUSHARREF'S time.

As a parting shot, let me inform you about what my Kashmiri friend K****din once told me. I quote: IF YOU ADD SUGAR TO POISON IT DOES NOT BECOME A SWEET DISH OR PUDDING. IF YOU CONSUME, YOU WILL SURE DIE. According to him ,as on date, PAKISTAN is a pure poison for India. May be after stomach wash things look up after4-5 decades. KASHMIR SOLUTION,sir, lies in the womb of 22nd Century. HISTORY of KASHMIR will ensure this.

Comments

question sir Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:26:35 PM
Sir,So do you think we should wait for 22nd century? I don't trust any paki but I don't go with your theory either. I believe solution needs to come from people of Kashmir. In fact I believe to sustain peace in Kashmir; Herculean effort is needed from people of Kashmir. It needs some sort of revolution. But at the end Kashmir will be an integeral part of India. Neither you nor me will deny this. Thank you

yaveshrana Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:25:24 PM
Dear Question, Sir,I do respect your views. Like a true Indian I, too, want an immediate solution but unfortunately certain facts on Kashmir militate against our wishes. I am not an astrologer but there are certain strange facts which force me to say what i'm saying. HOW I WISH THIS THEORY OF GRAND CYCLE IS WRONG? But it isn't, Sir.

again Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:03:17 PM
Sir,I don’t believe in God nor do I believe in fictitious story. I do and say things by heart. At present my heart says Kashmiri’s are suffering not because of the ill deeds or curse but because of selfish and greedy people possessing power. Once this is realised by people of Kashmir, it is just matter of time. The same is true in case of problems that prevail in our nation. I don’t believe in theory of “Karma”. I will be getting fruits of my ill deeds in this birth. Life after death, fruits of karma are carry forwarded in your next birth; makes me believe that our minds are not well developed yet. People talk about “judgement day” and you are talking about 22nd century for justice to prevail. Sorry sir I don’t go with these theories. God is within us. Have u heard that the famous saying in Hindi “Bagal me churi aur sher me dindora”. If extent this a bit more it will like solution will come from Kashmir people.Thank youPSI am sorry I am language is bit harsh.

yaveshrana Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:43:51 PM
No,"AGAIN" Sir, You are not harsh. you are agonised and I can see the pain. I do agree with you the KASHMIR issue will be resolved by people of KASHMIR. You said it is a matter of time---I say it is by the start of 22nd Century. I am being definitive and you are unsure of the time. It is not the KARMA theory sir. It is based on the analysis of the history of KASHMIR. Please CHECK YOURSELF-the recorded HISTORY from 1900BC To 2006 AD. You will authenticate me. Thanx

Shersingh Wednesday, December 6, 2006 9:16:54 PM
Musharraf is the only person who has the credibility and authority within Pakistan to take any major decisions witn regard to Kashmir, or make any compromises. No civilian Prime Minister could do so in the forseable future, as the Opposition parties as well as the military would immediately condemn it as a sellout. Can you imagine Nawaz Sharif, or Benazir ever being able to make any concessions? On the contrary, they would need to keep the Kashmir issue alive to divert public opinion away from domestic issues, failures, and corruption. India needs to recognise this, and make equal efforts to reach a solution.

jkeshav Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:29:08 AM
AS YOU RIGHTLY SAID PAKISTAN GOES IF KASHMIR GOES. PAKISTANIS FROM THEIR SCHOOLDAYS ARE FED WITH ANTI-INDIA & PRO-KASHMIRI MILITANCY FEELINGS. IF KASHMIR IS NOT ANNEXED & IS LOST IN THE PAKISTANI SENSE MUSHARRAF OR WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE WILL BE IN DIRE STRAITS FOR CERTAIN. FOR THE PAKISTANIS IT WILL BE A HARD TO DIGEST MATTER.

ruzan_shah Thursday, December 7, 2006 7:15:55 AM
well its really amusing that we are discussing Kashmir without kashmiris.....lolCome on folks Musharraf & Pak is the second stage the first thing is UN resolution of plebescite in Kashmir.Right of self determination.The question is do we really want to implement UN resolution on Kashmir or are we ready for a plebescite or are we serious about Kashmiri right of self determination ?Be honest guysreality is we dont want a plebescite on kashmir just because we know what kashmiri people want or what they will do.Pakistan is second feedle but we are the one who can solve this without Pakistan.Let kasmiri decide their fateDo we have courage or conviction for trueth ?If yes we can solve it ourselvesIf nowhats the point cursing others for our inability or unwillingness ?

Tiara Nova Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:43:54 AM
Well, not allowing the Kashmir issue to die down (because there is no mutually acceptable solution any way) is the concern of not only Pakistan, but also of the world bully, US. There are speculations that having enacted the bully job in Vietnam, Afghan, Iraq etc. and with the awareness that Kashmir is climatically more suited to their marines, USA may have a hidden agenda to ensconce itself in Kashmir in the garb of a third party mediator. Once they are in, Kashmir will be theirs. It will be the story of two cats and a monkey.

prateek_sri Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:44:06 AM
I think the peace process between india and pakistan is one sided, where pakistan is bent on to devastate india, india is very keen to make frindship with him.

ashith kamath Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:17:41 PM
yavesh,quite a stunning point"THE DAY KASHMIR ISSUE GOES, PAKISTAN GOES" its so true, who would think about pakistan if not for the kashmir issue and terrorism. but i think the soft stand of our government has got to end. i am all for the peace process to move forward, but our past experience has been so bitter, every peace process has been taken advantage of.... there cant be a bigger example than kargil or the 7/11 mumbai blasts. we must always put forward the hand for friendship, but i dont think we should ever let our guard down, neither should we ever let pakistan, china or any other neighbour take advantage of our naiveity. we have always come across as a country with false bravado, probably if our politicians had taken a tough stance, rather than talk big we wouldnt have seen the dismal track record that we have in situations where we are pressed. i feel its better to loose 300 of our own flesh and blood than release 1 terrorist in lien. its surprising how independance has softened us indians....

Simpleguy Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:59:25 PM
Ruzan says that the Kashmiris need to be included in the talk. Surely the elections do say that they are involved. Is it not?The Kashmir politicians, across the party line have promoted and participated in pogrom to drive out Hindus. Do we talk to these criminals?If Kashmir should go, it shall be the second partition in the name of religion. Secular India should not allow this to go ahead. The cost of partition should be borne by Kashmir and Pakistan that supports this partitioning along religious lines

Learner Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:35:13 PM
Dear yavesh i understand your point and completely agree with you. but one suggestion dear please write in black normal colour don't use red, green and blue colors.if there are some words which are very interesting then write them with in any color but not the entire post Hope you take this suggestion in a good spirit.ThanksLearner

CS Thursday, December 7, 2006 2:53:06 PM
On the contrary it gives color and beauty. I am also trying colors imitating rana. People who suffer from colorblindness may not appreciate or read colored blogs. it is their headache.

yaveshrana Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:34:59 PM
LEARNER Sir,I have tried to tone down the colours of the POST--Hope it serves the purpose. AND THANK YOU "CS" Sir. Both of you, sir, I will invite your valuable attention to my other post-" KASHMIR-A BOOK with a difference". I will like to know the views on the synopsis of my draft of the book.

Gone Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:01:40 PM
You have said if Kashmir goes, Pakistan goes. What does that mean? Where will Pakistan go? Will it cease to exist? Will it dissapear? Please dont talk nonsense.

yaveshrana Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:26:21 PM
Hullo GONE,You seem to be agitated b'coz You are not prepared to accept the fact that PAKISTAN EXISTS ON THE BASIS OF A FALSE PREMISE AS A PURPORTED HOMELAND FOR THE SUB-CONTINENTAL MUSLIMS--WHICH REFUSES TO RECOGNISE THAT INDIA WAS A SECOND LARGEST MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. KASHMIR is the rallying point for the MUSLIM POPULATION of Pakistan against a "HINDU INDIA". Should it drop its claim--it loses its rationality of existence.

yaveshrana Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:29:31 PM
GONE Sir,If you are a PAKISTANI national, which seems to me, I do understand your anger--I can only sympathise. You have been fed with "HATE 'HINDU' INDIA" as a staple diet for last 59 years. You are not prepared to accept the fact that India could also be the HOME FOR MUSLIMS. This is why the "UNFINISHED AGENDA" of 1947 goes on and on. Accept reality, sir-"MAZHAB KE BINA AAPKA WAJOOD NAHIn HAI."

MIRROR Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:22:05 PM
dear yavesh was pakistan came in to existence for the purpose of snatching kashmir from india? if you think so then your understanding of the issue is very less.

yaveshrana Thursday, December 7, 2006 7:12:50 PM
Dear Mirror/Gone etc./ Changed names types- "GONES"I am very clear on every thing. I haven't said anything of the kind you are trying to attribute to me. Did I say Pakistan came into existence b'coz of Kashmir? NO, Sir, it is the reverse of it. Don't fool yourself ,whoever you are--PAKISTAN JUST CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT "HATE INDIA". And KASHMIR obsession is the fuel that lights that flame.Agenda of 1947 is your life. Try n come out of it.

MIRROR Thursday, December 7, 2006 7:44:19 PM
Dear yavesh i do understand that leadership of Pakistan cannot afford to take a unilateral decision and relinquish the claim over kashmir.As this will result in unrest in the whole of pakistan.and the govt there cannot control that unrest and civil war cannot be ruled out in that situation.

Gone Thursday, December 7, 2006 7:54:18 PM
Dear Rana, I am very much an Indian. Also,I am not Mirror, please dont jump to conclusion. Whatever the reasons for creation of Pak, it is a fact, a sovereign nation. A fait accompli. It cannot be changed. You are creating a spurious linkage between Kashmir and existence or otherwise of Pak. Kasmir issue only used by politicians on both side of border to distract from domestics issues, particularly in Pak. Jingoism and nationalism, divert public from real problems and issues.

sirtidda Thursday, December 7, 2006 7:55:24 PM
well, whoever here said things about the Kashmiri people deciding for themselves on whose side to join and UN resolutions, why don't you talk about the displaced Kashmiri Hindus? And whose side they want to be in? In perhaps a couple of years from now, thanks to the vote-bank policies of the ruling party in India, these displaced people will cease to be even recognised as Kashmiris. Already, much of the current generation of these displaced people are born outside Kashmir.And whoever believes that deals made by Musharraf would stand the backing of successive Govts in Pakistan, stop kidding yourself. Pakistan stands united only in two causes .. and that is Kashmir and Cricket.Pray that some good visionaries/ leaders are born in Pakistan who can lead them out of the madness.

yaveshrana Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:10:51 PM
Mr GONE, I am not questioning the creation of PAKISTAN. It is Pakistan who does not want to exist without KASHMIR. Don't fool as to who u r ? Your bitterness Shows that you are a national of PAKISTAN, I have my sympathies for u.I'm not creating a spurious link for the existence of Pakistan :It is visible even on the darkest night to everyone, barring those who are blind.'HATRED FOR INDIA' IS your oxygen of life and KASHMIR pumps it.

harsh Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:51:21 PM
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